I use these frames to sell my art. They used to come with packing dings occassionally as the wood is not “heavy duty” as described. Now it seems they wrap them before the paint is dry so the ‘protective’ cardboard corners are stuck to the frame. After using water to get it off the finish is dulled. These shouldn't be allowed to be sold. I've bought 8 lately after getting them repaced and all are defective. Not good enough Ape