Andy Armitage was head of the department of post-compulsory education at Canterbury Christ Church University and taught in secondary, further, adult and community education, and HE for over 40 years. He was an associate inspector and then Ofsted Inspector (OI) from 2011-15. He now works as a consultant with universities, advising them on teacher training and as a staff developer in the education and training sector. As Chair of the Universities’ Council for the Education of Teachers Post 16 Committee from 2014-7, he was closely involved with the development of the Education and Training Apprenticeships. He is co-author of a number of key texts for FE ITE programmes including Teaching in Post-14 Education and Training, Working in Post-Compulsory Education, Assessment  in FE, Developing Professional Practice 14-19, Series Editor Teaching 14+.   Alison Cogger completed a BTEC national diploma in the 1990s and following her first degree, took a PGCE in post compulsory education and then taught and mentored for 6 years in FE. She worked for the AimHigher programme, leading on FHE progression, the subject of her Masters dissertation, before moving into adult and community education, where she was acting county manager for creative and healthy living for Kent Adult Education Service. She then entered HE as programme director of the PGCE 14-19, which was and remains a nationally unique teacher education programme leading to either QTS or QTLS. She is completing her doctoral thesis on vocational teacher training. She is currently faculty director of school, college and learning setting partnerships and is the faculty lead on apprenticeships at Canterbury Christ Church University.